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PREV PAGE: The Most Stupid Bet? - Part 1: The Zero Benefit

Betting "all sides", is that really

The Most Stupid Bet?

Mr Oops explains why this seemingly stupid bet can be a really good idea


IN PART 1 we learned that any kind of progression and any of the bets "Even", Thirds or Streets, will benefit from betting the difference of an all-sides betting. But this way may at first appear expensive as you have to bet all sides - two bankrolls for Red/Black betting, three for Dozens etc. Please, let me assure you this is not so:

Part 2: The Bankroll Benefit

The most obvious benefit is that you need one bankroll LESS than you would, had you bet the sum of all bets. So for betting Red/Black you will only need one bankroll, for betting all the Dozens you need two, for the Double Streets five and for the Single Streets you will need eleven bankrolls. Let me explain why this is so:

The technique behind betting the difference is, as we saw in Part 1, to subtract the lowest bet from all bets. One consequence of this is that the lowest bet will reduce itself to nothing and this will happen every time you are betting. And then, as you actually completely delete one bet every time, you are saving one bankroll namely the bankroll handling the "lowest bet".

But you don't have a bankroll handling the lowest bets, only the Red/Black bankroll! Well, that doesn't matter, really; as you are deleting one bet every spin, no matter what bet - this will even out in the long run - you are in fact deleting one complete bankroll and deleting one bankroll means that one bankroll is saved. That's why you only need

For betting RED and BLACK: 1 bankroll
For betting LOW and HIGH: 1 bankroll
For betting EVEN and ODD: 1 bankroll
For betting ALL COLUMNS: 2 bankrolls
For betting ALL DOZENS: 2 bankrolls
For betting ALL DOUBLE STREETS: 5 bankrolls
For betting ALL SINGLE STREETS: 11 bankrolls


But this is not all: You will, in reality, need even less than that! This is due to the fact that you always subtract the lowest bet from all bets thus diminishing all bets to some degree - admittedly most of the time by one single unit only. But this is enough to give you a reduction of your bankroll needs and this is especially obvious for the "even" chances Red/Black, Low/High or Even/Odd as the bankroll needed for betting both ways at the same time is LESS than what is needed for betting only one side! First you delete one bet/bankroll so you will only need one. But then your lowest bet (that never will be actually bet) will reduce the other bet thus giving the result of a lower bet than what should have been bet in the original way.

Let's look at it this way: We are going to bet the Martingale up to, and including, the third bet, thus the bankroll needed is 1 + 2 + 4 = 7 units (this is NOT a recommended way to play). If the third bet (4 units) is lost, we stop the game. Now, we hit the bad streak:

Spin 1: (1 Low + 1 High) We bet Nothing as the two are equal. Decision: 5 Low. Net Result: 0
Spin 2: (1 Low + 2 High) We bet 1 on High as 2 - 1 = 1. Decision: 6 Low. We lose. Acc Net Result: -1
Spin 3: (1 Low + 4 High) We bet 3 on High as 4 - 1 = 3. Decision: 10 Low. We lose. Acc Net Result: -4
As we lost the 4 units on High, we terminate the session.


As you can see, the bankroll needed is not 7 units; it's only 4! But this is the Martingale; I have used it in the examples because it is a simple progression and it clearly shows what is happening. As I have said before; any progression can be used. When using the Martingale progression, we mostly have a lowest bet of 1 unit, meaning that the other bets are not lowered very much. There can be a big difference, however, if you use a progression that does not immediately return to the lowest bet after a win (and/or you start with another value than 1). Such a progression is the d'Alembert; increase your bet 1 unit after a loss and decrease it 1 unit after a win. Let's see what would have happened if we had used this progression instead, betting the ten spins from Part 1.

Spin 1: (1 Low + 1 High) We bet Nothing as the two are equal. Decision: 25 High. Net Result: 0
Spin 2: (2 Low + 1 High) We bet 1 on Low as 2 - 1 = 1. Decision: 10 Low. We win. Acc Net Result: +1
Spin 3: (1 Low + 2 High) We bet 1 on High as 2 - 1 = 1. Decision: 18 Low. We lose. Acc Net Result: 0
Spin 4: (1 Low + 3 High) We bet 2 on High as 3 - 1 = 2. Decision: 25 High. We win. Acc Net Result: +2
Spin 5: (2 Low + 2 High) We bet Nothing as the two are equal. Decision: 33 High. Acc Net Result: +2
Spin 6: (3 Low + 1 High) We bet 2 on Low as 3 - 1 = 2. Decision: 7 Low. We win. Acc Net Result: +4
Spin 7: (2 Low + 2 High) We bet Nothing as the two are equal. Decision: 30 High. Acc Net Result: +4
Spin 8: (3 Low + 1 High) We bet 2 on Low as 3 - 1 = 2. Decision: 7 Low. We win. Acc Net Result: +6
Spin 9: (2 Low + 2 High) We bet Nothing as the two are equal. Decision: ZERO! Acc Net Result: +6
Spin 10: (3 Low + 3 High) We bet Nothing as the two are equal. Decision: 29 High. Acc Net Result: +6


Compare this result with the two results from betting one side at the time or the added result of both - these figures:
Low: Bet total 20 units, Won total 18 units giving the Net total -2 units
High: Bet total 18 units, Won total 22 units giving the Net total +4 units
Low/High Added: Bet total 38 units, Won total 40 units giving the Net total +2 units
Low/High Difference: Bet total 8 units, Won total 14 units giving the Net total +6 units.
This is FOUR UNITS MORE - the bet we didn't do when the Zero hit (Spin 9)! Also note that only a total of EIGHT units were at stake, instead of 38 - not even one quarter of the added bets!

Suppose now, that we have four Low hits in a row:

Spin 11: (4 Low + 2 High) We bet 2 on Low as 4 - 2 = 2. Decision: 16 Low. We win. Acc Net Result: +8
Spin 12: (3 Low + 3 High) We bet Nothing as the two are equal. Decision: 18 Low. Acc Net Result: +8
Spin 13: (2 Low + 4 High) We bet 2 on High as 4 - 2 = 2. Decision: 17 Low. We lose. Acc Net Result: +6
Spin 14: (1 Low + 5 High) We bet 4 on High as 5 - 1 = 4. Decision: 15 Low. We lose. Acc Net Result: +2

Now, the figures are:
Low: Bet total 30 units, Won total 38 units giving the Net total +8 units
High: Bet total 32 units, Won total 22 units giving the Net total -10 units
Low/High Added: Bet total 62 units, Won total 60 units giving the Net total -2 units
Low/High Difference: Bet total 16 units, Won total 18 units giving the Net total +2 units

By using only 16 units instead of 62 - close to 25% - we have turned a negative result into a positive one! There is still only the four units difference (due to the Zero at Spin 9) but in this case that is enough to keep us on the safe side. For a while...

As a final, let me show you the Reversed Labouchere applied to the difference betting on the 14 spins above. I will use the line (also bankroll) "1 - 2 - 3 - 4" (first bet is 5 units, total bankroll is 10), adding won bets (to the right) and cancelling lost ones. Minimum bet is 5 units. This one is going to LOSE! Here we go:

L line: 1 - 2 - 3 - 4
H line: 1 - 2 - 3 - 4
Spin 1: (5 Low + 5 High) We bet Nothing as the two are equal. Decision: 25 High. Net Result: 0

L line: X - 2 - 3 - X
H line: 1 - 2 - 3 - 4 - 5
Spin 2: (5 Low + 6 High) We bet 1 on High as 6 - 5 = 1. Decision: 10 Low. We lose. Acc Net Result: -1

L line: X - 2 - 3 - X - 5
H line: X - 2 - 3 - 4 - X
Spin 3: (7 Low + 6 High) We bet 1 on Low as 7 - 6 = 1. Decision: 18 Low. We win. Acc Net Result: 0

L line: X - 2 - 3 - X - 5 - 7
H line: X - X - 3 - X - X ==> Next bet less than min. Bankroll #1 gone (-7) NEW LINE! 1 - 2 - 3 - 4
Spin 4: (9 Low + 5 High) We bet 4 on Low as 9 - 5 = 4. Decision: 25 High. We lose. Acc Net Result: -4

L line: X - X - 3 - X - 5 - X
H line: 1 - 2 - 3 - 4 - 5
Spin 5: (8 Low + 6 High) We bet 2 on Low as 8 - 6 = 2. Decision: 33 High. We lose. Acc Net Result: -6

L line: X - X - X - X - X - X ==> Bankroll #2 gone (-10, Tot -17) NEW LINE! 1 - 2 - 3 - 4
H line: 1 - 2 - 3 - 4 - 5 - 6
Spin 6: (5 Low + 7 High) We bet 2 on High as 7 - 5 = 2. Decision: 7 Low. We lose. Acc Net Result: -8

L line: 1 - 2 - 3 - 4 - 5
H line: X - 2 - 3 - 4 - 5 - X
Spin 7: (6 Low + 7 High) We bet 1 on High as 7 - 6 = 1. Decision: 30 High. We win. Acc Net Result: -7

L line: X - 2 - 3 - 4 - X
H line: X - 2 - 3 - 4 - 5 - X - 7
Spin 8: (6 Low + 9 High) We bet 3 on High as 9 - 6 = 3. Decision: 7 Low. We lose. Acc Net Result: -10

L line: X - 2 - 3 - 4 - X - 6
H line: X - X - 3 - 4 - 5 - X - X
Spin 9: (8 Low + 8 High) We bet Nothing as the two are equal. Decision: ZERO! Acc Net Result: -10

L line: X - X - 3 - 4 - X - X
H line: X - X - X - 4 - X - X - X Bankroll #3 gone (-6, Tot -23) NEW LINE! 1 - 2 - 3 - 4
Spin 10: (7 Low + 5 High) We bet 2 on Low as 7 - 5 = 2. Decision: 29 High. We lose. Acc Net Result: -12

L line: X - X - X - X - X - X Bankroll #4 gone (-10, Tot -33) NEW LINE! 1 - 2 - 3 - 4
H line: 1 - 2 - 3 - 4 - 5
Spin 11: (5 Low + 6 High) We bet 1 on High as 6 - 5 = 1. Decision: 16 Low. We lose. Acc Net Result: -13

L line: 1 - 2 - 3 - 4 - 5
H line: X - 2 - 3 - 4 - X
Spin 12: (6 Low + 6 High) We bet Nothing as the two are equal. Decision: 18 Low. Acc Net Result: -13

L line: 1 - 2 - 3 - 4 - 5 - 6
H line: X - X - 3 - X - X Bankroll #5 gone (-7, Tot -40) NEW LINE! 1 - 2 - 3 - 4
Spin 13: (7 Low + 5 High) We bet 2 on Low as 7 - 5 = 2. Decision: 17 Low. We win. Acc Net Result: -11

L line: 1 - 2 - 3 - 4 - 5 - 6 - 7
H line: X - 2 - 3 - X
Spin 14: (8 Low + 5 High) We bet 3 on Low as 8 - 5 = 3. Decision: 15 Low. We win. Acc Net Result: -8

At the end of this series of 14 spins, we could have (if we had bet the added bets) been betting a whopping 178 units (Low 92, High 86) and won a total of 154 units (Low 98, High 56) giving a total net result of -24. We also had to be prepared to use at least seven bankrolls (5 lost and two in working), meaning a total of at least 70 units. Betting the difference, we had a TOTAL of 22 units AT STAKE - that's less than the TOTAL RESULT for betting the added - and won 14 giving us a net result of -8. In terms of bankrolls/lines we never used two as worst down was 13 units and in terms of betting only one side, we can divide the added result by two to get a figure in between: Bet 89 units, Won 77 units, Lost 2.5 lines or bankrolls and having a total of 6.5 units in profit, working. So at least 4 bankrolls were needed here, meaning a total of 40 units as we lost 2.5 x 10 units and have one line in working. The "difference betting" did never even get close to two...

In my opinion, this is saving money!
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